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Back in the day, you know, I heard this from Chaz that everything that was important was written in Old English - if you got a death certificate, a wedding certificate, you know, your graduation certificate, it was - had the, you know We were infatuated with New York and hip-hop. But even though the Air Force 1 was the hottest shoe on the planet, I mean, it was like crack cocaine, man. So you could tell, oh, he's calling from Soledad, you know, somewhere up north, you know, in a Chino prison or somewhere. A zombie apocalypse happens, they're going to need it this way, you know, and I got a job. And - yeah, man, that was like the shit, you know. You know what I'm saying? He was a beast. The street art book you're referring to is by Martha Cooper and Henry Chalfant, correct? When I seen that Futura did a shoe and Stash, I was like, man, it's possible, you know. I had been called a lot of things but never a tastemaker, you know. Ya'll know. I got to figure it out in my head. And they would drive only s Chevy cars. And he liked my old man, so he put up with me. You're just driving. But he was so short that he would go in the tunnels in Vietnam and kill the sergeants or, you know, higher-ups in the Vietnamese army. And I had this idea. Did you have her poster on your wall? And you would hear a lot of "Suavecito. So - this is incredible, yes. Like, I know for myself, when I was young, I could tell you the floor in my building, the first time I saw a tag, I was 4 years old. There was this Old English lettering. My old man would print them. It's kind of you have to create your next job or your destiny, right?
I seen that it could be done, you know. So this man let me look over his shoulder. I - when I tried being in a gang when I was a kid, I would just do the block gang letters, you know, in the neighborhood. Leave him alone, like, he's cool, you know. I just wanted to get your thoughts on that song. And they would come to the West Coast and play for purely Chicano Mexican crowds. So learn how to do those murals on the car. I was like, oh, word. I was in basic math. Years later, I find out that her mom was Mexican. Now, for our vast audience of hundreds of millions of listeners around the world, how would you self-describe Mr. We had to cling onto what was ours. There's gang culture which has its art scene. A zombie apocalypse happens, they're going to need it this way, you know, and I got a job. So - but they had - you know, cool. And I think if you look at Chicano gang aesthetics and you're an outsider, just with a superficial reading, you probably wouldn't expect that the musical component of that culture is what it is.
I already paid for it. One of the things that you're most well-known for is your tattoo business. A zombie apocalypse happens, they're going to need it this way, you know, and I got a job. I got the collab after that. That's like a bible for the entire world basically. Like, we had all kinds of titles, but the Cartoon clicked. And his voiceover, he was out of our culture but in our culture. They'll trip out on you, you know. But I knew how to do draw, you know. And the clock numbers were crooked, and that would go into something else. And you're going to tattoo at the Air Force 1 event. I'm like, yo, that's crazy. And her hair went back. Cartoon, West Coast black and grey, holmes. And he's like the voice of LA as far as an old, old DJ like coming out of like Huggy Bear and those type of old-school DJs where they actually played oldies. I was like - they call me Mister. I got to figure it out in my head. And we seen that shit, and we would try to copy it.
But he was kind of like, why am I teaching this kid? Years later, I find out that her mom was Mexican. And I would just submerge myself into whatever I was in blindly and just draw about it. He was a tunnel rat in Vietnam. There would be a few Crips in there and shit, you know. And I rapped to him for, you know, 30 seconds. So he takes me by Inglewood and drops me off at some karate school, you know. Like, I don't even know if she knew what she was doing, but she was instilling this confidence. That's my mom scolding me. And that's when we started putting, like, I was just Cartoon back then, you know. You want to be wanted. And they did it. So when I was young, the fact that I could play ball gave me kind of like the hood pass. Chaz is an artist. I was a real quiet kid. And I was persistent. And it had Fab Five Freddy. And I would carry a pad of paper under my arm and a pencil in my ear. And I was all happy. So this man let me look over his shoulder. Joining us in a moment is an artist who is revered equally on the street, amongst A-list celebrities and in the corporate world. And the clock numbers were crooked, and that would go into something else. I called my manager. It was like dark brunette hair, you know. Give me a brush, candle and a can of paint and I can letter.
I'd steal food off the craft service table and take that shit back home. It was very important to me that I did a Cortez because I couldn't forget where I come from, you know what I'm saying? So what we invented was lowriding. But he was so short that he would go in the tunnels in Vietnam and kill the sergeants or, you know, higher-ups in the Vietnamese army. Cartoon, like - yeah. So he would put these little jewels in my head. And my karate teacher was my And now with every collaboration I would do with, say, a corporate company, I would bring in a couple busloads of kids and tell them how to do it. You know, but you deal with creative types, man, and they're the hardest to deal with. So that was the closest thing for us to have our name on the side of a subway car is that we would mural these cars, and we'd have them drive through the city. And it had real New York graffiti in it. And I just - I would - the teacher would sit me down and be like, you know what, son? And it was like a fast way of doing Old English so the cops wouldn't get you, you know.
And I was all happy. You can do it. So my mom would type me up an invoice on the typewriter. I had been called a lot of things but never a tastemaker, you know. You have world-famous museums. And you will be judged by your car in LA because you have to drive everywhere. He goes, I signed you up for karate. But right then, I mean, by accident, I was on a Hollywood set. And I did graffiti to pay off the debt I owed for the city. So I was like, man, if he did it, it's humanly possible I could do this. But then like they were, like, yo, no, no, he plays ball. And they did it. And they would come to the West Coast and play for purely Chicano Mexican crowds. They didn't have car culture the way we had. You should write a sign that says, no food in the class. So you mentioned that your mother was a big encourager of you as an artist. And they heard the word free, you know, and they jumped on it, you know. Mark Parker's going to be there. He would pronounce some of like the Spanish shit wrong sometimes. We were infatuated with New York and hip-hop. I'm going to hit him up. You know, we memorized that shit because that was like our only reference to graffiti. I was a real quiet kid. And when I look back at those pictures now, they were all stick people and shit, you know what I'm saying? Let's give it up for Mr. They missed the Internet. And he would beat me up half the time, you know. So he would put these little jewels in my head.
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